3/2/2010 chat thread

[DarKZONE]

talk about it here

and rember ive not fully finished yet just takeing a small brake as 12 hours plus now

This is not a complete change list just what I’ve done so far and no I’m not finished ^^
So what’s changed?
G70 Shields update J
G70 Uber Elite Shield added
G70 Uber Elite Shield Tiers T3 Eva / Def / Absorb /// Donation only at the moment

Mage Hair Clip’s Added
G60 Hair Clip: 15 – 30 Min Max Magic Attack / 1 Eva / 2 Def
G65 Hair Clip: 30 – 45 Min Max Magic Attack / 2 Eva / 4 Def
G70 Hair Clip: 45 – 60 Min Max Magic Attack / 3 Eva / 8 Def
G75 Hair Clip: 60 – 75 Min Max Magic Attack / 4 Eva / 10 Def
Archer Arrow’s Added
G60 Arrow:: 15 – 30 Min Max Attack / 2 Eva / 1 Def
G65 Arrow:: 30 – 45 Min Max Attack / 4 Eva / 2 Def
G70 Arrow:: 45 – 60 Min Max Attack / 6 Eva / 4 Def
G75 Arrow: 60 – 75 Min Max Attack / 8 Eva / 6 Def

In Game Weapon Packages
17/17/7 package for archer and knight with 5% chance of going on
18/18/8 package for archer and knight with 3% chance of going on
17/17 for mage with 5% chance of going on
18/18 for mage with 3% chance of going on

all of the above will be dropping on the server bar the tier shields for now witch will be added at a later date to the server.

In Game donation system changes
G70 Armor Sets added to the list. @ the old website price of 35 tokens each set
G70 Armor Tier Sets added to the NPC as well @ the price of 50 each set
Plus 10 Deffence TOP added to the npc (it will add +10 defence then the server will remove the top allowing you to add another top) @ price of 3 each
Plus 1 Attack TOI Added to the npc @ Price of 2 tokens each
Plus 1 Magic Attack TOI Added to the npc @ Price of 2 tokens each
Plus 1 OTP TOI Added to the npc @ Price of 2 tokens each
The Plus attack/ magic/ otp are the same as the plus def top
G70 UE slield added to list @ Price of 8
G70 UE Tier shelds added to the list @ price of 11

Level 1 Tele Access Card removed from task menu so people with level 2 and 3 cards can delete it
ES Team Teleport (F1 Menu added to the server)

Keishas mage area updated
New Spawns added
back map entrance fixed
Exp boosted to between 1mil to 2.2 per kill rember this area is not men to be a stand still splashy area

[Divana]

wiht those archer shields ic's will get more la dmg.

if comma get another tier part they cant be killed anymore.
1h vaga's also.

so we get back to 0.

EA still suck:S
IC still pwn
knights still pwn all xept ic.


only thing that should be done acctualy was reduce the absorbtion of knights.
the idea is good but i'm sure this wont be a succes:S

[Gorazu]

i agree with Divana post....and i think the F1 port system will be like wtf...will sins be able to port when they want? if they do we cant kill them anymore lol and thats sad.

[DownLoading]

Now commas are overpowered... not even ic's can kill them
And vagas now maybe can be killed by EA's
And about teleport system... just shoud be able to non-sins!
If reduce absorve gear... shoud be just for commas cause got more absorve then others

[DarKZONE]

you 3 can not read o.O when does the es team become all of you?

[Airwave]

what DZ wanted to say is that the teleporting-system is only for ES-Team-Members. Means MODs/GMs/Admins... and thats what the updatpage exactly says...

[DopeBoy]

sigh.....................

[NeRDy]

darkzone you are doing a great job updating things.. realy we all want that
but you never know how the situation is going on...cause you never see the pvp

Knights absorb : was already to high they get such a LOW dmg everybody was complaining and discussing about it.. and now you even add more with the shields.
they are a absolutely immortal class above 90+ only IC can own them after a long time they got lucky their LA is to overpowered..

Archers IC's LA : They already pwn with LA since cooldown is normal and with a
DMG tiered bow the LA is insane above 3k sometimes , and now those arrows
even add more min/max MORE LA dmg yay , andother immortal step for IC

Mages Evasion : Maxed mages lvl 85-90+ already got 270-280 eva and more with buffs..or clean.. KNights otp maxed w/o calls/buffs = 260 with a hp/str build...
i dont say knights otp should get raised at all.. but you guys complained mages
could solo everything , minis/d5 but now they get even more evasion so their
wasnt a point to make minis harder...

so what was the point ? Everybody got even MORE stronger and balancing will be
NEVER but NEVER able again... balancing is a lost job atm... all those tiers and stuff

what gonna happen once g75 UE can be tiered ? Immortal classes cant kill eacother?

I like the updates you do , i Like the new donation system to it gonna be way faster
for you to deal with donations now... i like the new mage area aswell it asks
teamwork for mages to kill IR for example cause the mobs hit good on mages
but making classes stronger and stronger again is a fail
Non stop dramas about balancing on forums , you never read them , and now you
make classes again overpowered

[BeatUp]

ok now here is tommy whit his great points yet again, imba

ok for those clips and shizzle make instead of all the time different stats like eva/def
make ONLY magic attack cus mages are strong atm lol (and i love it)
whit those shields and tiers hm well thats a big deal kinda. commas are hard enough to kill already lol even vagamanders are hard. the absorb should be def only for the shield cus thats where a comma is all about.. DEF
and yeah another time more attack for ic's is insane man maybe make arrows for ea's whit attack and for IC's some hp?

THO dont get me wrong those updates are damn wicked maybe screenie them?
mage area is great atm just some testing left

[Divana]

exactly beat, that is what i meant to say. the idea and stuff is great, but the stats will make classes way overpowered again.

to abalance u need to get the absorbtion lower

edit:

the different between the full g60 and full g70 will be 2 much :S ppl that cant afford g70 cant do shit to g70 no matter what lvl they r

[Owner]

Originally Posted by BeatUp

ok now here is tommy whit his great points yet again, imba

ok for those clips and shizzle make instead of all the time different stats like eva/def
make ONLY magic attack cus mages are strong atm lol (and i love it)
whit those shields and tiers hm well thats a big deal kinda. commas are hard enough to kill already lol even vagamanders are hard. the absorb should be def only for the shield cus thats where a comma is all about.. DEF
and yeah another time more attack for ic's is insane man maybe make arrows for ea's whit attack and for IC's some hp?

THO dont get me wrong those updates are damn wicked maybe screenie them?
mage area is great atm just some testing left

lal a good balanced ic already got like 19k hp whit buff

Originally Posted by Divana

exactly beat, that is what i meant to say. the idea and stuff is great, but the stats will make classes way overpowered again.

to abalance u need to get the absorbtion lower

Abso sucks indeed but if you lower abso knights need hp stated again and when hp needs stating we lose otp so baseline is knights got to low otp to hit peoples lol i got now whit 40 hp clean stated ( normaly like 100+) 270 otp whit pots so ahm if we would go stat hp we would end up whit 255-260 otp so whit buffs make that 265 and call 285 hmm lets see mage whit these new clips got 290-295 eva whit buff? hmm knights going to fail arch whit new shit hmm 275-280 eva and 20k orso hp hmm knights will die
We all know abso sucks yes but if you take away abso knights are so weak lol they will be pwnd by every 1 ea ic herm cjb vaga and comma just every 1

Originally Posted by DarKZONE

you 3 can not read o.O when does the es team become all of you?

Im 1337 so i should have that option also rly ! xD


Maybe Sugestion is to delete the abso crap dont add these clips or what ever and make tiers dif

Abso Tier Change:
( More Knight Bassed )

T1 3 Str 2 Hp 1 Agi
T2 4 Str 3 Hp 2 Agi
T3 5 Str 4 Hp 3 Agi

Def Tier Change:
( More Mage Bassed )
T1 3 Hp 2 Agi 1 Int
T2 4 Hp 3 Agi 2 Int
T3 5 Hp 4 Agi 3 Int

Eva Tier Change
( More Arch Bassed )
T1 3 Agi 2 Hp 1 Str
T2 4 Agi 3 Hp 2 Str
T3 5 Agi 4 Hp 3 Str

Just an suggestion ofc , feel free to discus it peoples i would like to see ur opinion

Bye, Owner

[Divana]

Knight aint made to kill mages but to kill archers.
mages r meant to kill kngihts.

the triangle

so 260 otp is enuf owner lol. if am maxed i got a lil more eva than 260 otp but does those few matter? knights hit a lot dmg so those few points doenst even matter.

and yes knights r meant to kill ea's but normaly 5 ea's could kill a knight but in es they hardly can lol

but i like the tier ideas of u

[Looopy]

Originally Posted by Divana

Knight aint made to kill mages but to kill archers.
mages r meant to kill kngihts.

the triangle

so 260 otp is enuf owner lol. if am maxed i got a lil more eva than 260 otp but does those few matter? knights hit a lot dmg so those few points doenst even matter.

and yes knights r meant to kill ea's but normaly 5 ea's could kill a knight but in es they hardly can lol

but i like the tier ideas of u

I just Quote you here divana

you have not spoken bout 4k+ la's from ic's yet

they are even stronger then 3 maxed 90+ knights

[Divana]

yes loopy i also said that ic will be overpowered a maxed ic can atm pwn 2 knights with that new shit ic can pwn 3 kngihts

[Divana]

better give ppl mod armor now, than u dun have to update so many times. cuz it will end up same. no one can kill eachother if u keep giving classes more and mroe stats.

i had faith that kn would have les absorb.
ic's crit bug would be fixed.

but now i c this.

EA's still cant do shit.

all knights will go 1h vaga.
ic still pwn hard

[Divana]

dz u got a/n ingame that ask for ideas to balance game. ashlyn posted a lot about this. read that first plz.

this is what i'm sure that need to be done:

IC crit bug need to be fixed
Absorbtion rate must be removed and replaced by defence. EA's atm cant do shit against knights. cuz if u give ea's more dmg they r overpowered vs mages again so that is THE solution.
Archers should get resisntance on there armor again.

this is what should be fixed. ofc there is more but i'll edit it later if i kno what

[Frodo]

The biggest problem on this server is the tier shit on items and the fact that we have fucking 20/20/20 weapons. It's overkill, what's the point of having high evasion if you can't dodge knights or archers no matter what. Remove the tier items and replace them with normal stuff again, and remove the 20/20/20 from weapons, and replace it with 16/16/6 like it used to be a long time ago. We all know, of course that it's painfully obvious dz would never do this so as long as tiers and 20/20/20 remain in the game this server will continue to favor those who can afford to purchase overkill gear, leaving hard working players at a severe disadvantage. Also what the hell do mobs hit so much, even mages with 270+ evasion still get hit a fuck ton. What's the point in all that evasion if the monsters still hit every single time and have 20k hp? That makes it even harder for people who can't afford to purchase overkill gear. Donators knew the risks when they chose to donate, but it's the only way to make things fair and balanced for everyone. That'd mean making the mobs a little easier and making g70/g60 harder to get again but it's worth it in my eyes. I don't just mean tiers on armor, i mean the stupid azz kicker and uber elite upgrade stuff for armor too, normal armor, normal weapons with reasonable stats. That would make things very fair for everyone.

But silly me being realistic, it's a pipe dream at best and I know this post will fall on deaf ears in the end so I don't even know why I tried.

[FackingMage]

I agree with ya frodo, make it int armors all of it ;D

[Gorazu]

DZ.. u said in game every1 could delet all cards cus of that F1 telleport system. Just for u to know.

[Airwave]

Originally Posted by Gorazu

DZ.. u said in game every1 could delet all cards cus of that F1 telleport system. Just for u to know.

The F1 ingame Teleport-System is only for ES-Tesm-Members. Not foall players.